Has anyone used the new "neural network" software Canon is pushing?

[TwoWheeler]

I downloaded the newest version of DPP the other day to see if they exterminated the critter I previously asked about (the window minimizing when I was deleting images). (Good news, they did, but the command/delete command still doesn't work in Quick view even though it did before...)

I got a notification popup asking if I wanted to download their new "neural processing" software, so I said "WTH" and did. Still not sure exactly what it's 'spoda do, because when I went to run it, I got this:

Most of Canon's software seems to have been written by a monkey that's been dropped on it's head one too many times and now they have the temerity to try and charge for said crap-ware?

That's a hard no, Canon.

 

[Dean Wilson]

NnIP is a SaaS (Software as a Service) as you have discovered, same path as Adobe went: subscription-based.

It is restricted to EOS-1D X Mark III / EOS R1 / EOS R3 / EOS R5 Mark II / EOS R5 / EOS R6 MARK II / EOS R6 / EOS R6 Mark II / EOS R7 / EOS R8 / EOS R10 / EOS R50 V / EOS R50 / EOS R5 C camera bodies.

Of note: Lens Optimizer is restricted to RF lenses only, no EF glass or third-party.

For more information: Click here.

 

[TwoWheeler]

NnIP is a SaaS (Software as a Service) as you have discovered, same path as Adobe went: subscription-based.

Yeah, someone's gonna get "serviced" here, but it ain't me.

Adobe is a software company that makes and "sells" software that is -arguably - a value for the money. It actually works.

Canon is a hardware company, whose previous forays into software do NOT fill me with confidence that what I would be buying would be worth the nickel's worth of electrons I'd have to squander to download it.

 

[Only RF]

While it sounded interesting at first I get far more value out of the Adobe Photo Plan. I still keep DPP updated and use it to pre-cull al my files before importing.

Yes Canon has not put too much into their software like DPP. The last big one was DLO which which was introduced over a decade ago. Since they are in the camera business I guess they just maintain for customers who don't want to pay or use free apps. My guess is whoever "maintains" DPP likely has several other more pressing items included in their job description.

Didn't know that about Lens Optimizer (DLO). I only have RF glass these days but it really makes no difference.

 

[TwoWheeler]

Yes Canon has not put too much into their software like DPP.

…so what makes them think I’ll pay for the Neural Nonsense app?

 

[Only RF]

…so what makes them think I’ll pay for the Neural Nonsense app?

Some will, some won’t. I’ve not met too many that use it.

 

[David Berry]

I'm a gullible optimist, and subscribed to the annual plan for ~AU$15 (about US$10): free trial for 31 days prior to the first billing.

Fair enough, the naïve one thought!

1. Where to download the app?
2. Answer (I kid you not!): "Download from the Canon website." Of course, there was no link.
3. Cue image of looking for a needle in the proverbial haystack.
4. Hours later: app found and downloaded.
5. Start the app (or so I thought).
6. "Have you paid for a subscription?" —> "Yes." —> "Restart the app and it will work."
7. Close and restart the app.
8. "Have you paid for a subscription?" —> "Yes." —> "Restart the app and it will work."
9. Close and restart the app.
10. "Have you paid for a subscription?" —> "Yes." —> "Restart the app and it will work."

… and so on.

Canon's software seems to have been written by a monkey that's been dropped on its head one too many times.

It's impossible to disagree.

For the moment, the door to the monkey house remains locked from within: I'll have to remain outside. (It could have been fun.)

… David

 

[Only RF]

AU$15 a month or fro the year? One option on my "if I ever drop Adobe list" is going back to DPP for basic editing and use other apps to compliment it. My digital past once included being a DPP diehard. The old only Canon knows its own RAW engine best. Canon colours, etc. Then files went to PS for finishing. It took about 3 trials to adapt to LR and my primary use for it was for event editing. It figured that six months later Canon introduced DLO.

Over time I started to appreciate LR. Now LrC14 (LrC15 soon) with all the advanced masking, Denoise AI, etc I have not sent a file to PS since LrC11. I've only kept one 3rd party app - Topaz Sharpen AI which I use sparingly.

The only two things I need from Adobe is to enable the Neural Engine and a Sharpen AI module. Continuous improvement in a masking, etc which will be ongoing.

Adobe would really have to tick me off a lot to leave. I don't replace skies, etc but I will work the heck out them, especially for B&W. Lots of radial and linear masking. I try to maintain the what I caught in the field so what I work with. If there are annoying twigs in front of a bird it was I'll to do better next time. The last few months I've broken down and removed a few of those twigs.

There is a baseboard heater on the floor that I'm replacing with a new one in another room and I didn't feel like moving it.

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This at one time would have taken me hours and I probably would have given up. One swipe with Generative AI and it took seconds. Pretty hard to give that up.

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[David Berry]

The farce is over: I’ve cancelled my auto-renewing neurosis.

… David

 

[Only RF]

The farce is over: I’ve cancelled my auto-renewing neurosis.

… David

Neural neurosis

 

[TwoWheeler]

The farce is over: I’ve cancelled my auto-renewing neurosis.

… David

Neurosis? What happened to the old roses?

 

[ansieltrion23]

Hello,
I’ve been experimenting with Canon’s new “neural network” setup, and while the concept is interesting, the results really depend on the type of workflow you’re pairing it with. For anyone working in 3D printing, the AI angle isn’t entirely new slicers have been using smart detection for a while. I’ve had a smoother experience using tools like Orca Slicer, which applies AI for things like print-fault detection and calibration. If you’re curious how that compares, the details here helped me a lot: https://orcaslicer.pro/

 

[Only RF]

Hello,
I’ve been experimenting with Canon’s new “neural network” setup, and while the concept is interesting, the results really depend on the type of workflow you’re pairing it with. For anyone working in 3D printing, the AI angle isn’t entirely new slicers have been using smart detection for a while. I’ve had a smoother experience using tools like Orca Slicer, which applies AI for things like print-fault detection and calibration. If you’re curious how that compares, the details here helped me a lot: https://orcaslicer.pro/

What's the cost?