New ACR Adaptive profile

[Only RF]

The Adobe Adaptive Profile | Adobe Blog

This blog post introduces a new Camera Raw feature (public beta): The Adobe Adpative Profile. This image dependent profile provides an AI-powered starting point for editing photographs in both standard and high dynamic range.

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[Jake Shoots Birds]

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That doesn't say that this isn't going to save a bunch of people a bunch of time. It's essentially the same reason I don't start my raw image processing by hitting the "Auto" button like I did 15 years ago. And honestly, I don't feel like feeding the Adobe AI engine. So when they make that the default profile applied in the near future that's when I think about cutting and running.

 

[Only RF]

What do you mean by feeding the Adobe AI engine?

 

[Jake Shoots Birds]

What do you mean by feeding the Adobe AI engine?

"The latest version of Camera Raw includes a new profile, called Adobe Adaptive. Unlike existing profiles such as Adobe Color or Adobe Landscape, Adobe Adaptive is image dependent. An AI model analyzes the photo and adjusts tones and colors to make them look just right. The effect is as if the AI had changed Exposure, Shadows, Highlights, Color Mixer, Curves and other controls for you, although the actual controls stay in their original neutral position.

"The AI has been trained on thousands of hand-edited photos of people, pets, food, architecture, museum exhibits, cars, ships, airplanes, landscapes, and many other subjects."

AI is AI because it doesn't stop learning. So when it says it's been "trained on thousands of hand-edited photos" that doesn't mean that it's done learning. The thing no one realizes about AI is that, as amazing as it is, when you interact with it the AI is actively interacting with and trying to learn from you. I know - my team and I have spent the last 3 years trying to keep my company from ingesting the product I manage into an AI engine, because once it's there for them it's there for everybody. Could be why we were all let go this week - something for which I'm actually grateful.

As Adobe applies the profile to your image, what you do with your image after that will more than likely be fed back into the AI engine, something we've likely given them permission to do to when we clicked "Agree".

I don't fear AI. But my work is my work, and I don't like to give it away for nothing. Granted, I've likely been helping Topaz and DxO as I use their DeNoise products, but at least I'm getting something I can't do easily. Editing? I'm OK with doing things like this the hard way.

 

[Only RF]

Adobe only uses licensed stock photos to train AI. They don't scan peoples computers. They do scan files in the cloud for illegal things like child pornography, etc which I don't have a problem with. I don't want to get into a long drawn argument at this fine community as you have a right to believe what you wish, which I respect. I'm just replying so other readers get accurate information.

As for speed I have been using Auto since its release. Auto was trained using stock photos. Adobe added ISO Adaptive preset several years ago. I did a charity shoot a few years ago. Between those two I edited over 500 files in just over an hour. Before Lightroom I used to start with Canon DPP and the flies ended up in PS for finishing. An editing nightmare, for me anyway.

Adaptive Profile is like Auto but also analyses the scene.

 

[Bryan Conner]

I have used the Adaptive profile on a few images and really appreciated the starting point that it provided me on those images. I say starting point, because it was closer to what I wanted to achieve in the end which is a good thing in my book.

It is simply another choice of available tools that can be used. Nothing more or less in my opinion.

 

[Only RF]

If you don’t adjust anything in LrC you can sent it to PS as a Smart Object. There you can open ACR and apply Adaptive Profile. Most importantly you can apply non destructive Denoise AI and fine tune it at 100% see it s as full view. That’s the major reason.

Press done to close ACR. Then File - Save. It opens as a TIFF back in LrC. It will just show Color as the profile so make sure you pick the one you want in ACR. Also be sure to activate this by accessing using the gear in the upper right hand corner when in ACR, that you only need to do once.

Not ideal but for us birders, hobbyist and if you don’t process hundreds of file. One day LrC will get both.

 

[Jake Shoots Birds]

Adobe only uses licensed stock photos to train AI. They don't scan peoples computers.

And I never said they did. Training AI is different from using AI. They've called it an "Adaptive Profile" and there's a reason. If they only trained it on stock photos then it wouldn't be "adaptive", it would be static and have some other name. So while Adobe doesn't scan your computer (something I never accused them of doing), they "look" at every photograph you apply the profile to, as well as what is done to the photograph post-profile application. Those actions are used to determine just how much that adaptive profile needs to adapt. That's the machine learning, or "intelligent" part of "artificial intelligence".

I am not accusing Adobe of anything unscrupulous, inappropriate, or unethical. I'm simply stating that I choose not to use my editing to train their algorithm. Much for the same reason musicians are balking at AI music programs sucking in their work so it can be used to create someone else's "art". If I don't license my photos for their "stock" I'm certainly not going to give it to them free.