Canon R5 Anticipation for R5 Mark II?

[jcass]

Having been on an upgrade cycle of 7 to 8 years, I confess that I am likely to purchase an R5 Mark II on introduction after having my R5 for a year and half. That'll be two firsts for me: upgrading after only 1 1/2 years, and buying a camera at intro. Of course, this is depending on an actual release and the final specifications of the camera.

I love my R5 and plan to keep it as a second body. There are a couple of features though that just keep tugging me down the road to upgrade:

1. Pre-buffer shooting. I always miss birds launching by a hair and would like to take photos of lightning. In sports, I have a good sense for the moment of the action, this can only help.
2. Auto-focus improvements, especially QPAF and low light AF. The R5 is fantastic, but it does hunt in low light and improvements in the R6 II and R8 AF have been lauded. I admit, this is a weakness of mine and I can use all the help that I can get.
3. Increased resolution/size of viewfinder and display. My eyes just ain't what they used to be. My unicorn is the articulating viewfinder.
4. Multi-function hot shoe. My old flashes suffice, but the incompatibility moving forward is frustrating.
5. Stacked sensor... dynamic range... improved low light image quality. No complaints in my R5, but can you imagine it being better!

I'd like to know what other folks think about the Mark II... should the February announcement actually occur. I think it will. What features do or don't matter to you?

 

[Archibald]

I'm fine with my R5 as it is, except that its features are different-enough from the R7 to cause confusion. Maybe the R5 II will be more like the R7. That would be a benefit. The other issue for me is that, since getting the high-mpx R7 and almost always shooting reach-limited, I have a lot less use for FF than for crop. So, not sure I will upgrade. What I really need is an R7 II - but that is likely years away.

 

[jcass]

I'm fine with my R5 as it is, except that its features are different-enough from the R7 to cause confusion. Maybe the R5 II will be more like the R7. That would be a benefit. The other issue for me is that, since getting the high-mpx R7 and almost always shooting reach-limited, I have a lot less use for FF than for crop. So, not sure I will upgrade. What I really need is an R7 II - but that is likely years away.

I haven't tried setting the crop mode to 1.6 in my R5. For image quality, it seems half a dozen of one versus six of the other to me. But, I want to try it because I read that it does improve autofocus for birds.

Have you tried it in your R5 and compared it to the R7?

 

[Archibald]

I haven't tried setting the crop mode to 1.6 in my R5. For image quality, it seems half a dozen of one versus six of the other to me. But, I want to try it because I read that it does improve autofocus for birds.

Have you tried it in your R5 and compared it to the R7?

Yes, I have tried it but have not come to conclusions. Others say (like you) that AF improves. I almost always use the R7 now in these situations.

 

[RedCobra]

I will get one as soon as I can and my R5 (MkI) will be my second body. I will sell my R7 (which I am not happy with.)
My OM-1 has QPAF and a BSI stacked sensor and I find it is pretty amazing, but it's only 20mp.
45mp or greater with QPAF/BSI stacked sensor will be a winner.

 

[Nick L]

Definitely interested if the specification is a step up from my R5, I would like to see the eye tracking from the R3 and a better EVF, not sure i need a lot more MP but I am going to Iceland in October so it would be nice to take for Aurora and Landscapes.

 

[lostnomore]

I'm anticipating the R5 II to address some of the very few shortcomings of my R6. Mainly, I want a camera that will have absolutely zero video overheating issues and more MP for tighter cropping. A stacked sensor would also be a definite bonus; I believe this would reduce/eliminate rolling shutter effects using electronic shutter for photos of fast subjects?

 

[jcass]

Definitely interested if the specification is a step up from my R5, I would like to see the eye tracking from the R3 and a better EVF, not sure i need a lot more MP but I am going to Iceland in October so it would be nice to take for Aurora and Landscapes.

Eye tracking caught me as a game-changer on first read, but lost its luster as I thought about it. I think my eye drifts away from the focus point for composition and such. Have you used eye-tracking, if so how well does is work for you?

 

[Nick L]

Eye tracking caught me as a game-changer on first read, but lost its luster as I thought about it. I think my eye drifts away from the focus point for composition and such. Have you used eye-tracking, if so how well does is work for you?

Not yet I have had a look at the R3 but not used it, I think for wildlife if I can focus on a specfic bird that has got to help, so if it is included I would use it I am sure.

 

[StevenAunan]

Definitely watching for the R5 II announcement. Will probably sell my R7 and keep the R6 as the second body. I could also see selling both, but having two bodies is a luxury I've come to see as almost a necessity. Another option would be to keep the R7 and buy an R6 II, but I'll wait to see how the R5 II turns out.

 

[RedCobra]

Latest rumor has it that the R1 may come out before the R5 MkII. Could be a bit of a wait for the R52.

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[jcass]

Latest rumor has it that the R1 may come out before the R5 MkII. Could be a bit of a wait for the R52.

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Saw the same. I'm not holding my breath for the R5 mk ii official announcement. I'm somewhat hopeful it will be announced in Feb though and the sooner the better for me to make budget decisions. If not announced I'll be mildly disappointment, but really not a big deal. At the least, I figure that Canon will feed the rumor mills for CES and CP+.

Is a refine of rumor really better information?

 

[TonyB]

With Nikon dropping the Z8, Sony the A7RV, I can’t see how Canon can wait much longer to drop the R5-II. I can’t see consumers deciding in favor of an almost 4 year old camera over a 4 month old camera. Canon knows this. I’m hoping to have an R5 II announcement in the next few months.

 

[lostnomore]

With Nikon dropping the Z8, Sony the A7RV, I can’t see how Canon can wait much longer to drop the R5-II. I can’t see consumers deciding in favor of an almost 4 year old camera over a 4 month old camera. Canon knows this. I’m hoping to have an R5 II announcement in the next few months.

I agree. The R5 II definitely needs to be released by the end of 2024.

 

[BasilFawlty]

I am so happy with my R5 that I'm not really clamoring for the R5ii. I'm sure it will have more capabilities, but for what I shoot (60% landscapes, 20% Night sky and 20% wildlife and birds in flight), the R5 is doing the job for me. If and when I do upgrade it won't be right away.

 

[SO8]

I keep wondering whether to sell my R5 and just keep my R8, let alone all the chat re an R5 II ... !!! No pro jobs. No need for a second card slot. IBIS I am not convinced it a must have for me ... and size (small) is a thing for me ... Yes, small is good ladies ! lol ... I love cropping though and theR5 is great for that. The R8 is great though and I want to pick that up more for weight than anything else. I have a good selection of RF lenses.

 

[jcass]

I keep wondering whether to sell my R5 and just keep my R8, let alone all the chat re an R5 II ... !!! No pro jobs. No need for a second card slot. IBIS I am not convinced it a must have for me ... and size (small) is a thing for me ... Yes, small is good ladies ! lol ... I love cropping though and theR5 is great for that. The R8 is great though and I want to pick that up more for weight than anything else. I have a good selection of RF lenses.

Not a pro either and I understand your preference leaning toward the lighter camera. I don't know much about the R8. I upgraded from a 7D to the R5 and I've been extremely pleased. Being a clumsy oaf who pretends to photograph birds, I rely on the 45MP... probably too much. Comes in handy for sports too. For me, I think the R5 hits the sweet spot and I find that my lens is the biggest factor in weight.

I can't give you any advice on whether or not to sell your R5, only you can decide that. But, I truly hope that whatever you decide, it works out great for you.

 

[RedCobra]

To the OP:
I have the R5, but also the OM-1. The QPAF and the BSI stacked sensor are winners.
Hope the R5MkII goes that way. More important to me than a Mp bump.

 

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and I just bought a R5. It will replace one of my R7s with the 70-200 f4 for twilight wildlife.
Hoping the R5 doesn't struggle as much with AF in the low light conditions.
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[jcass]

To the OP:
I have the R5, but also the OM-1. The QPAF and the BSI stacked sensor are winners.
Hope the R5MkII goes that way. More important to me than a Mp bump.

Same on the MP bump. I'm not criticizing the R5's auto-focus. I came from the 7D and I thought its auto-focus was great. But, I can use all the help I can get from the AF system. The feature at the top of my list is pre-buffer shooting (or whatever you want to call it). That and perhaps even better low-light AF and noise performance.

I've read about stacked sensors, but still don't have a fundamental understanding of what they improve. Is it just frame rate? Would like to hear your take considering you have both the RF and the OM-1.

 

[BasilFawlty]

Same on the MP bump. I'm not criticizing the R5's auto-focus. I came from the 7D and I thought its auto-focus was great. But, I can use all the help I can get from the AF system. The feature at the top of my list is pre-buffer shooting (or whatever you want to call it). That and perhaps even better low-light AF and noise performance.

I've read about stacked sensors, but still don't have a fundamental understanding of what they improve. Is it just frame rate? Would like to hear your take considering you have both the RF and the OM-1.

The stacked sensor will greatly reduce the occurrence of rolling shutter, as one might expect when taking high speed shots of fast moving subjects.

 

[Kamoshika]

I think I'm going to this next week. I wonder if the R5II will be announced by then...and will I get to see one.

 

[JCBigler]

If you are goong to downgrade from the R5, you should look at the R6 mkII instead of the R8.

 

[BasilFawlty]

I think I'm going to this next week. I wonder if the R5II will be announced by then...and will I get to see one.

Look forward to your reporting!

 

[RedCobra]

Same on the MP bump. I'm not criticizing the R5's auto-focus. I came from the 7D and I thought its auto-focus was great. But, I can use all the help I can get from the AF system. The feature at the top of my list is pre-buffer shooting (or whatever you want to call it). That and perhaps even better low-light AF and noise performance.

I've read about stacked sensors, but still don't have a fundamental understanding of what they improve. Is it just frame rate? Would like to hear your take considering you have both the RF and the OM-1.

The quicker readout speed makes a faster electronic shutter possible for Stacked BSI CMOS models, plus allows for faster autofocus response for higher burst rates with autofocus. Stacked CMOS chips improve upon the BSI CMOS concept. They place components in a similar arrangement, but the design also stacks the image signal processor and its ultra-fast DRAM memory into the same silicon. This makes readout speeds even faster.

 

[jcass]

The quicker readout speed makes a faster electronic shutter possible for Stacked BSI CMOS models, plus allows for faster autofocus response for higher burst rates with autofocus. Stacked CMOS chips improve upon the BSI CMOS concept. They place components in a similar arrangement, but the design also stacks the image signal processor and its ultra-fast DRAM memory into the same silicon. This makes readout speeds even faster.

Do you think it is a noticeable impact on AF performance? And do you feel there's a high-ISO noise improvement?

 

[Jake Shoots Birds]

Do you think it is a noticeable impact on AF performance? And do you feel there's a high-ISO noise improvement?

As the user of both, if the R5 had the R7's focus system with no other changes it would be a huge improvement (understanding that much of the R7's issues are due largely to processing power and not the system - it performs great in the R3.). I don't care if it increases MP's, I'm happy with the status quo. If they do then I would want to see a significant improvement in sensor readout speed to improve the rolling shutter issues I get a lot with bird-in-flight photography. Would a stacked sensor improve AF and/or high-ISO noise? Answer in general is, "It depends". The question is would Canon release a MkII and not make improvements on both, and my answer is I would certainly hope not.

 

[koenkooi]

I keep wondering whether to sell my R5 and just keep my R8, let alone all the chat re an R5 II ... !!! No pro jobs. No need for a second card slot. IBIS I am not convinced it a must have for me ... and size (small) is a thing for me ... Yes, small is good ladies ! lol ... I love cropping though and theR5 is great for that. The R8 is great though and I want to pick that up more for weight than anything else. I have a good selection of RF lenses.

I did exactly that few weeks before xmas, sold the R5 and kept the R8. Most of what I use the R5 for, dragonflies and macro, isn’t a winter activity.
So far I haven’t regretted it, the R8 is much better for family pictures, the HF anti-flicker works great for my indoor LED lighting.
I did miss the 45MP when I encountered a kingfisher during a walk, but that’s about it. When I go out for a full morning of shooting during spring I’ll miss the larger battery, bigger buffer and CFe, but that’s still a few months away

 

[SO8]

Indications are an R5 ii is likely to be announced in about 6 weeks ....

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The spec seems likely ... MP the same but a general improvement on the existing model which I feel lags behind the R6 ii / R8 in terms of focusing and ease of use.

I was going to sell. I am still loosely thinking about it as I can get an R3 for a silly low price. The thing is, I don't need an R3 and ought to just wait and see what the new R5 ii is like and trade then.

 

[jcass]

Indications are an R5 ii is likely to be announced in about 6 weeks ....

I'm still eagerly awaiting the release and real specs. 45MP is fine for me. Improved AF, low-light performance (less noise, more dynamic range), and pre-buffer mode are my big ticks. The rumored spec's seem to be indicating that those boxes will be checked. Some online folks are complaining that the Mark II will only be an incremental upgrade. I'm still of the mind that the right increments are all I need to make it worthwhile.