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This builds on my 'What have you bought this week' and follow-up posts. Firstly, to provide some context, I am an ‘enthusiastic hobbyist’ who enjoys fiddling around with stuff. Tech-wise, I use a MacBook Pro (and so macOS) with Adobe, DxO and Topaz Labs apps (plus Tony Kuyper Panels for Photoshop). I’ve had a Loupedeck CT console (link Here) for around 11 weeks, primarily for use with photo apps, but also with certain macOS apps.

The Loupedeck CT connects via USB (braided USB C cable and USB A adapter supplied). It has a large touch screen wheel, various buttons, 6 combo dial/ buttons and a 4x3 touch screen matrix with haptic feedback. The unit itself feels high quality and the buttons and dials and have a pleasing action (the large wheel is free moving, the combo dial/ buttons are incremented). Loupedeck provides control centre software which includes profiles for a range of software apps (download it free Here). You can examine - and even ‘customise’ app profiles without the need for the actual hardware. (This is quite good fun in itself! Obviously you can't interact with any apps, but you can mull-over the options and visualise the possibilities).

Each app has its own ‘profile’, which could have multiple ‘workspaces’, comprised of one or more wheel/ dial/ touch ‘pages’. You can move between pages by swiping the screens (or you can assign buttons to perform these tasks). Except for the home, enter, keyboard, and Fn keys, all of the CT’s buttons and the wheel, dials and touch matrix can be assigned to run keyboard shortcuts, multi-actions (macros), multi-toggle actions, apps, or AppleScripts, open apps or web pages, enter text, or make dial adjustments. The CT auto-switches profiles as you move between apps (or you can opt to do this manually). Icons can be customised to assist with identifying the assigned functions. There is no discernible delay between user action and app response.

The profiles/ icons provided by Loupedeck are a very good start and for some people these will meet all their needs - other versions can be downloaded from the Loupedeck Marketplace (some are free, some are not). Otherwise the supplied profiles and icons can either be customised, or brand new ones created. There is no doubt time invested in setting up the Loupedeck CT to suit your workflow and preferences will be rewarded with tangible benefits - but these refinements could take quite a time, involving much trial and error. It should also be noted that some apps (notably DxO and Topaz Labs) only offer very limited integration. Loupedeck provides set-up, use and trouble shooting guidance and tips on their web site.

As an example, my current Lightroom Classic Profile (still a work-in-progress) is as follows -
Button #1: Workspace 1 - Library Module (Weeding, sending higher ISO raw files to-from DxO PhotoLab Elite, initial basic settings and ratings).
Button #2: Next Dial Page */ +Fn. Quick Link to Photoshop. (* I find this works better for me than swiping - which still remains a viable option).
Button #3: Previous Dial Page/ +Fn. Next Wheel Page.
Button #4: Workspace 2 - Develop Module (Basic processing, including favourite masking presets, ratings and links to Cropping/ Masking Workspaces).
Button #5: Workspace 3 - Develop Module (Misc. processing, including curves and colour grading).
Button#6: Workspace 4 - Library Module (Creative editing - including links to other apps, plus some ratings and misc. file management tools).
Button #7: Mark image as Unrated-Delete/ +Fn. Toggle Before-After.
Button #8: Workspace 5 - Library Module (Export Filters and regular use Export Presets).
Button A = Grid View, B = First Image, C/ D = Previous/ Next Image and E = ‘Opt’. Main Dial, Dial Buttons assigned adjustments/ settings and set-ups.

The bottom line is I’ve found the Loupedeck CT to be a really neat and fun input device which works alongside - but does not replace - my keyboard/ mouse. It’s a joy to use for processing raw files/ images - there’s something deeply engaging and satisfying about twiddling the dials and watching the image develop - and it does save time and effort (eventually!). The Loupedeck CT certainly isn’t cheap to buy, but it’s proving itself to be a pleasingly slick, worthwhile addition to my set-up. Only you can judge whether this is something you should consider, but it’s a definite keeper for me and I really wouldn’t want to be without it now.

Example customisations are shown in the below screen captures. These may, or may not, accord with your own workflow and needs, but they demonstrate potential use-cases. (Note, some of the functionality shown uses my custom AppleScripts).

Phil

1. Lightroom Classic Library Module Workspaces.

1-LrC-Library.jpg


2. Lightroom Classic Develop Module Workspaces.

2-LrC-Develop.jpg


3. Photoshop Workspaces.

3-Photoshop.jpg


4. DxO PhotoLab Elite, FilmPack and ViewPoint Workspaces.

4-DxO.jpg


5. DxO Nik Collection Workspaces.

5-Nik.jpg


6. Topaz Labs Photo AI, Sharpen AI and Studio 2 Workspaces.

6-Topaz.jpg


7. Catch-all macOS, Safari, and Mail Workspaces (All work in progress).

7-macOS.jpg


8. Custom Options (Tip: ‘Search’ is your friend!) with a sample AppleScript shown (inset).

8-Custom Options.jpg
 
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This builds on my 'What have you bought this week' and follow-up posts. Firstly, to provide some context, I am an ‘enthusiastic hobbyist’ who enjoys fiddling around with stuff. Tech-wise, I use a MacBook Pro (and so macOS) with Adobe, DxO and Topaz Labs apps (plus Tony Kuyper Panels for Photoshop). I’ve had a Loupedeck CT console (link Here) for around 11 weeks, primarily for use with photo apps, but also with certain macOS apps.

The Loupedeck CT connects via USB (braided USB C cable and USB A adapter supplied). It has a large touch screen wheel, various buttons, 6 combo dial/ buttons and a 4x3 touch screen matrix with haptic feedback. The unit itself feels high quality and the buttons and dials and have a pleasing action (the large wheel is free moving, the combo dial/ buttons are incremented). Loupedeck provides control centre software which includes profiles for a range of software apps (download it free Here). You can examine - and even ‘customise’ app profiles without the need for the actual hardware. (This is quite good fun in itself! Obviously you can't interact with any apps, but you can mull-over the options and visualise the possibilities).

Each app has its own ‘profile’, which could have multiple ‘workspaces’, comprised of one or more wheel/ dial/ touch ‘pages’. You can move between pages by swiping the screens (or you can assign buttons to perform these tasks). Except for the home, enter, keyboard, and Fn keys, all of the CT’s buttons and the wheel, dials and touch matrix can be assigned to run keyboard shortcuts, multi-actions (macros), multi-toggle actions, apps, or AppleScripts, open apps or web pages, enter text, or make dial adjustments. The CT auto-switches profiles as you move between apps (or you can opt to do this manually). Icons can be customised to assist with identifying the assigned functions. There is no discernible delay between user action and app response.

The profiles/ icons provided by Loupedeck are a very good start and for some people these will meet all their needs - other versions can be downloaded from the Loupedeck Marketplace (some are free, some are not). Otherwise the supplied profiles and icons can either be customised, or brand new ones created. There is no doubt time invested in setting up the Loupedeck CT to suit your workflow and preferences will be rewarded with tangible benefits - but these refinements could take quite a time, involving much trial and error. It should also be noted that some apps (notably DxO and Topaz Labs) only offer very limited integration. Loupedeck provides set-up, use and trouble shooting guidance and tips on their web site.

As an example, my current Lightroom Classic Profile (still a work-in-progress) is as follows -
Button #1: Workspace 1 - Library Module (Weeding, sending higher ISO raw files to-from DxO PhotoLab Elite, initial basic settings and ratings).
Button #2: Next Dial Page */ +Fn. Quick Link to Photoshop. (* I find this works better for me than swiping - which still remains a viable option).
Button #3: Previous Dial Page/ +Fn. Next Wheel Page.
Button #4: Workspace 2 - Develop Module (Basic processing, including favourite masking presets, ratings and links to Cropping/ Masking Workspaces).
Button #5: Workspace 3 - Develop Module (Misc. processing, including curves and colour grading).
Button#6: Workspace 4 - Library Module (Creative editing - including links to other apps, plus some ratings and misc. file management tools).
Button #7: Mark image as Unrated-Delete/ +Fn. Toggle Before-After.
Button #8: Workspace 5 - Library Module (Export Filters and regular use Export Presets).
Button A = Grid View, B = First Image, C/ D = Previous/ Next Image and E = ‘Opt’. Main Dial, Dial Buttons assigned adjustments/ settings and set-ups.

The bottom line is I’ve found the Loupedeck CT to be a really neat and fun input device which works alongside - but does not replace - my keyboard/ mouse. It’s a joy to use for processing raw files/ images - there’s something deeply engaging and satisfying about twiddling the dials and watching the image develop - and it does save time and effort (eventually!). The Loupedeck CT certainly isn’t cheap to buy, but it’s proving itself to be a pleasingly slick, worthwhile addition to my set-up. Only you can judge whether this is something you should consider, but it’s a definite keeper for me and I really wouldn’t want to be without it now.

Example customisations are shown in the below screen captures. These may, or may not, accord with your own workflow and needs, but they demonstrate potential use-cases. (Note, some of the functionality uses my custom AppleScripts).

Phil

1. Lightroom Classic Library Module Workspaces.

View attachment 25957

2. Lightroom Classic Develop Module Workspaces.

View attachment 25958

3. Photoshop Workspaces.

View attachment 25959

4. DxO PhotoLab Elite, FilmPack and ViewPoint Workspaces.

View attachment 25960

5. DxO Nik Collection Workspaces.

View attachment 25961

6. Topaz Labs Photo AI, Sharpen AI and Studio 2 Workspaces.

View attachment 25962

7. Catch-all macOS, Safari, and Mail Workspaces (All work in progress).

View attachment 25963

8. Custom Options (Tip: ‘Search’ is your friend!) with sample AppleScript (inset).

View attachment 25964
I have been tempted by this so many times!!! Great to see what it can really do.
 
Well, there you go - Loupedeck 'Sales and Future Development' announcement Here... 😮

Phil
 
Loupedecks are the best, and the CT is the best Loupedeck.

About 5 years ago I found a CT on Craigslist for like $70. I'd never heard of it before I saw that listing and when I looked it up I thought, I want this. I hate mouse sliders. Knobs are so much better.

The guy I bought it from had opened the box, found out what it would take to make it work, then put it back in the box and it sat in a closet for a couple of years. It's hard to set up, so you need to know that going in. I'm an old coder and it took me 40 hours over a couple of weeks to get it where I could use it the way I wanted, and tweaked it regularly for another six months after that.

Once I started using it for real, it became an integral piece of hardware; as much as my keyboard or mouse. Pretty much everything on my desktop, at least a little bit, runs through the Loupedeck.

After awhile, though, it started acting up. Actions that I'd programed stopped working and/or disappeared from the configuration menus. I got leery of updates to the point where I stopped using them. Then the hardware started acting up. The device would freeze up or shut down after sitting for a little bit. Off/on fixed that quickly, but still.

I kinda freaked out. This thing is probably going to die sooner or later and I can't afford a new one, or even a used one. There is zero chance I'll find another one for $70, but I do need to replace it.

I settled on a Razer-branded Loupedeck Stream that I found on Ebay for $250. I've been using it for a few months now. The Stream is the top half of the CT. It's got the knobs, touch screens and round buttons, but no center wheel and no square buttons. I was pretty good about keeping backups of my workspace configurations on my old CT, and those imported surprisingly well into the new Stream. Other than icons, my LRC actions came over pretty much straight across. Big sigh of relief.

Between the time I ordered the Stream and the time it came in the mail, I spilled wine on the CT. That fried the touch screens and pretty much put me out of business. When I got the Stream, it came with a factory kickstand. Since the day I got the CT, I'd considered getting an aftermarket kickstand but I never did. If I had, it probably would have saved it from that wine spill.

I don't know what Logitech is going to do with Loupedeck. I like Logitech, I've got a ton of their stuff. But this isn't that. As configurable as they are, a Loupedeck console is in a different league from an MX keyboard and mouse. I got my Stream running pretty sweet right now on the latest firmware available when I got it. They've already started asking me about an upgrade. Before I do that, I might see if I can find a complete copy of the firmware I'm on now, so I can revert if I have to. For the time being, I'm going to leave it the way it is and make sure I keep good backups of everything.
 
I’m a diehard user of a 3D mouse (Spacemouse) for CAD/CAM work, so I’ve been very intrigued by alternate input devices…but I just don’t see what either a Loupedeck or a tablet/pen setup would gain me. I keep looking, but don’t get it. Maybe I’m just dumb.

I do know that my wife had to return her Wacom because it made her nauseous. Something about the disconnect between hand motion and eyes or something.
 
but I just don’t see what a Loupedeck ... would gain me.
Dials. It gives you dials/knobs, plus one-touch actions. It really cuts down on mouse sliders. I hate mouse sliders. Too imprecise.
 
Dials. It gives you dials/knobs, plus one-touch actions. It really cuts down on mouse sliders. I hate mouse sliders. Too imprecise.
Dunno. I pretty much only use Crapture One and Helicon, so the workspaces and shortcuts would be kind of lost on me. Once in a great while, in desperation, I take something out to the Topaz suite or into Neo, but that’s about it.

Apparently my eye just isn’t good enough to where I feel constrained by the lack of precision in the sliders. My usual technique is to move a slider all the way to “Garish” and then dial it back.

With a Spacemouse for CAD/CAM, I can rotate the model with my left hand and select edges/faces with the mouse in my right hand. I can approximate that in C1 with keyboard shortcuts with my left hand and the mouse in the right.

A Loupedeck would certainly make my desk look more impressive, but unless it has a dial that goes from “Suck” to “Great”, I don’t see it.
 

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