My R7 died after falling into seawater - Replacement camera advise

[R7Dutch]

Good day All,

During my recent trip to Lofoten Islands in Norway I slipped on a icy rock at Uttakleiv Beach and my camera landed softly in the salty seawater. Took the battery out, and removed lense, and tried to switch it on after a couple of days, had it drying in a bag of rice. The camera doesnt switch on anymore. Local camera store told me that with salt water, its very bad and circuits will be shorted/corroded very quickly. I bought the only available R10 in the area to continue my photo tour, which was great. Although I missed IBIS with video shoots, even with my IS stabilised lenses, I noticed the difference, especially zoomed in and windy conditions. The R10 I will sell.

Insurance will cover my R7 loss, now I am considering will I buy another R7 (or mark II when i comes), or step up to the R6 Mark II (good prices now in Holland) to FF.

I do like to do wildlife now and then, with extra crop factor of the R7, also shooting F1 motorsports sometimes, however I do mostly landscapes, closeups, city, and in summer time Milkyway and winter time Aurora shots (sometimes). Especially those night shots, I believe I will have less noise using the full frame sensor of the R6 mark ii, even when I would go back to F2 or F2.8 full frame wide angles, compared to my sigma RF-S 12mm F1.4 that I currently use with the R7/R10. I find the R7 sensor still quite noise when shooting night shots, already from ISO 800 and up.

I already have the RF 100-400mm, which I can keep with the R6, my other lenses RF-S 18-150, sigma RF-S 2.8 18-50 and sigma RF-S 12mm F1.4, i would sell with the R10, and I would probably start with the RF 24-105 IS STM 4-7.1 light weight walkaround, a wide angle Loawa 15mm F2 and a canon 50mm RF 2.8 prime.

Im aware my hobby will get more expensive and more heavy with RF lenses, that's why I am a bit in doubt, staying with more compact/lower cost APS-C or moving to F-F now...

Andy advise, from people who made the step from APC-S to F-F ?
Thanks,

Regards
Bert

 

[Only RF]

I had an R7 and an R6II. I'm in an experimental year. I decided sell my R7 last year (early spring) and waited for the R6III and traded my R6II for it. I figured the extra megapixels will help and it has advanced subject detect AF. I really like some of the menu changes Canon made for the Case numbers.

This is the first year in a long time that I have been on an extended trip with only a FF. I'm not really sure yet but like others I have G.A.S. which does not help

I only have two lenses. After selling all my EF gear in 2019 I just replaced the lenses I used most often. I now have the RF 24-105 F4 which I love on a FF. I also have RR 100-500 and the 1.4 TC.

With the R7 and the 100-500 gave me 800mm. The FF (now R6III) gives me 700mm with the TC. That lens on a FF with a TC is a very nice fit. The TC worked well with the R7 but my keeper rate dropped significantly.

I'm missing some reach and crop power but I'm not sure how big of a difference that will make in the long run. It's just a hobby and I mostly post files in sites like this. All files I have been posting since Jan 1 have been with the R6III.

Not sure what to suggest. You have a body to work with and I think it is official that the R7II is coming out soon. Personally I never liked the shutter thump on the R7 so I shot with ES all of the time. We'll see if the R7II has a stacked sensor (or softer shutter) but I have to admit it really never affected me using my R7.

The R7II will have the advanced subject detection and I can say the R6III has exceeded my expectations in that area.

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I'm defiantly going to look at the R7II but I want to hold it and take some shots first so I'll wait until my local dealer has a display model. You may want to wait and see what the R7II brings. Another option is to trade up to the R6III.

This not my shot with the R6III. I got the RAW off another site before the R6III was released so I could play around with it. Cropped using Lightroom Classic and no other 3rd party apps or upscaling applied.

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I posted this the other day just for fun. I normally never crop this much.

Full-Frame Thread 'RF 100-500 and 1.4'

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It's not a wall mount but taken with My R6III. I did crop down below 1600 on the long side, applied LrC's Super Resolution which doubled pixels and sized to 1600 at export.

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I don't use Super Resolution (Adobe LrC) very often. This was the only other time I tried it with my 24 mp R6II.

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[R7Dutch]

I had an R7 and an R6II. I'm in an experimental year. I decided sell my R7 last year (early spring) and waited for the R6III and traded my R6II for it. I figured the extra megapixels will help and it has advanced subject detect AF. I really like some of the menu changes Canon made for the Case numbers.

This is the first year in a long time that I have been on an extended trip with only a FF. I'm not really sure yet but like others I have G.A.S. which does not help

I only have two lenses. After selling all my EF gear in 2019 I just replaced the lenses I used most often. I now have the RF 24-105 F4 which I love on a FF. I also have RR 100-500 and the 1.4 TC.

With the R7 and the 100-500 gave me 800mm. The FF (now R6III) gives me 700mm with the TC. That lens on a FF with a TC is a very nice fit. The TC worked well with the R7 but my keeper rate dropped significantly.

I'm missing some reach and crop power but I'm not sure how big of a difference that will make in the long run. It's just a hobby and I mostly post files in sites like this. All files I have been posting since Jan 1 have been with the R6III.

Not sure what to suggest. You have a body to work with and I think it is official that the R7II is coming out soon. Personally I never liked the shutter thump on the R7 so I shot with ES all of the time. We'll see if the R7II has a stacked sensor (or softer shutter) but I have to admit it really never affected me using my R7.

The R7II will have the advanced subject detection and I can say the R6III has exceeded my expectations in that area.

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I'm defiantly going to look at the R7II but I want to hold it and take some shots first so I'll wait until my local dealer has a display model. You may want to wait and see what the R7II brings. Another option is to trade up to the R6III.

This not my shot with the R6III. I got the RAW off another site before the R6III was released so I could play around with it. Cropped using Lightroom Classic and no other 3rd party apps or upscaling applied.

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Thanks for your advise.

 

[Only RF]

Thanks for your advise.

I'm not sure it's good but it's all I have. It would have been novice to give you a definitive answer but I'm on the fence myself. Personally I would not buy another R7 at this point.

 

[R7Dutch]

I'm not sure it's good but it's all I have. It would have been novice to give you a definitive answer but I'm on the fence myself. Personally I would not buy another R7 at this point.

I will go to have another look at the camera store these days for the look and feel of the R6 Mark ii. I dont want to have a too heavy combination of body/lense. I was surprised how good the little R10 body performed as a replacement camera on my holiday, but I missed the IBIS for some video shots. for the rest the camera did a great job. Ultimately for higher dynamic range, less noise, I think I will need to step up to fullframe.

 

[Archibald]

Good day All,

During my recent trip to Lofoten Islands in Norway I slipped on a icy rock at Uttakleiv Beach and my camera landed softly in the salty seawater. Took the battery out, and removed lense, and tried to switch it on after a couple of days, had it drying in a bag of rice. The camera doesnt switch on anymore. Local camera store told me that with salt water, its very bad and circuits will be shorted/corroded very quickly. I bought the only available R10 in the area to continue my photo tour, which was great. Although I missed IBIS with video shoots, even with my IS stabilised lenses, I noticed the difference, especially zoomed in and windy conditions. The R10 I will sell.

Insurance will cover my R7 loss, now I am considering will I buy another R7 (or mark II when i comes), or step up to the R6 Mark II (good prices now in Holland) to FF.

I do like to do wildlife now and then, with extra crop factor of the R7, also shooting F1 motorsports sometimes, however I do mostly landscapes, closeups, city, and in summer time Milkyway and winter time Aurora shots (sometimes). Especially those night shots, I believe I will have less noise using the full frame sensor of the R6 mark ii, even when I would go back to F2 or F2.8 full frame wide angles, compared to my sigma RF-S 12mm F1.4 that I currently use with the R7/R10. I find the R7 sensor still quite noise when shooting night shots, already from ISO 800 and up.

I already have the RF 100-400mm, which I can keep with the R6, my other lenses RF-S 18-150, sigma RF-S 2.8 18-50 and sigma RF-S 12mm F1.4, i would sell with the R10, and I would probably start with the RF 24-105 IS STM 4-7.1 light weight walkaround, a wide angle Loawa 15mm F2 and a canon 50mm RF 2.8 prime.

Im aware my hobby will get more expensive and more heavy with RF lenses, that's why I am a bit in doubt, staying with more compact/lower cost APS-C or moving to F-F now...

Andy advise, from people who made the step from APC-S to F-F ?
Thanks,

Regards
Bert

The R7 is (IMO) fantastic for wildlife because it gives you reach and croppability (because of its high pixel density, not because of its crop format). But as you say, FF is better for general shooting and gives less noise. Since you don't do as much wildlife as some of us, I would agree FF is the way to go for you. FF has a better lens selection too, very expensive of course, but the lenses are there if you need them.

I do a lot of wildlife (far away birds and very close bugs), so for that I need the R7. But I also do general photography including studio work, and for that I need FF. So I have both. Cameras are tools, and you need the right tool for the job.

 

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I will go to have another look at the camera store these days for the look and feel of the R6 Mark ii. I dont want to have a too heavy combination of body/lense. I was surprised how good the little R10 body performed as a replacement camera on my holiday, but I missed the IBIS for some video shots. for the rest the camera did a great job. Ultimately for higher dynamic range, less noise, I think I will need to step up to fullframe.

I was pretty impressed with the R6II with the first few shots of my wife's choir. Indoors and about ISO 5000 as I recall.