Canon R5 II It seems that this is a bad news

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Noise to me is a big thing and the main reason why I sold the R7. Like somebody said in a famous movie: Nobody is perfect.
 
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I have an R5. It does not have the reputation of a high-ISO, DR monster. Yet, I've not been disappointed. More recently, I've been impressed with the quality of Dx0 and Lightroom's noise reduction.

I feel that noise performance has been elevated to Unicorn status. Noise is a part of imagery... artistic in some cases, but undesirable in many others. Yet it isn't the final measure of an iconic photograph. I have an R5 Mk II on preorder and I am not concerned at all about the posts declaring a decrease in image quality. I believe that any difference will not be noticeable to me and the way that I judge photos.

In any case, the camera isn't released yet. I may get it on August 20-something and say, "this is crap". I doubt that. I'm willing to bet that I won't be able to discern a difference in image quality unless I make a intentional effort look for it. For now, I remain focused in anticipation for the new features and capabilities, and how they may enhance my chances of capturing an iconic photograph.
 
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Nothing here bothers me in the least. I learned long ago that the more MPs the more you have to deal with noise, so proper exposure is key. The R7 is noisy, but it's also got a pixel density that equates to an almost 80MP full frame camera so it's not unexpected. As Jim said, the tools to deal with noise now are just stupidly great at allowing you to deal with whatever noise is there. I'm buying the R5ii for a lot of reason, and none of them have to do with getting cleaner images.
 
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But... It would be good if you do not have to deal with noise at all ;). But everything is a trade off. You gain is some features and you do not in other ones, it's a matter of knowing the weak features and have a plan B to deal with them. Once you have everything figured any camera is as good as the photographer using it.
 
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ctitanic said:
But... It would be good if you do not have to deal with noise at all ;). But everything is a trade off. You gain is some features and you do not in other ones, it's a matter of knowing the weak features and have a plan B to deal with them. Once you have everything figured any camera is as good as the photographer using it.
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If the image you're taking needs to be brightened by 4-6 stops, maybe the camera isn't your problem. But that's what they're showing here.
 
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Jake Shoots Birds said:
If the image you're taking needs to be brightened by 4-6 stops, maybe the camera isn't your problem. But that's what they're showing here.
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Yeap, but keep in mind that they did the same to both, R5 and R5II. Same test same conditions.

But to be fair, you should not brightening your picture that much, you will get too much noise.
 
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This is a common theme on many sites... a hot topic, but it is useless. I've had a 40D, then a 7D, and now an R5. I have not been disappointed with the image quality of any of these cameras and I won't be disappointed the R5 Mk ii. The photo that I took today won't be crap because I take it tomorrow with my new R5 Mk II. None of us even have that camera yet.
 
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I don't think it's a big deal after comparing different cameras here. One interesting thing did I notice is how the R5II and the Nikon Z8 seem to be extremely similar in IQ. There does seem to be a slight improvement over the R5, but at higher ISOs (12,800), the "hit" becomes more noticeable, but nothing NR software wouldn't take care of easily. Also, I did notice that the R6II seems to hold its own, before cropping, which is exactly the challenge I face often, shooting birds. If only one could get close enough to all birds...or could afford the RF600mm F4 L IS USM, or even more.
 
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I am very happy with the R7-R5 performance. Both are light years ahead of 5DIV-7DII. The mistake people make with the R7. Thirty frames is a joke. R5II will be a great camera. also. RJ

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