R7 help

Renegade Viewfinder · Aug 11, 2022

I have been shooting sports for many years most recently was shooting with the EOS R (which i still have) but just got the R7 and was super excited. Took it out to the high school volleyball game and majority of my pics were blurry. This is my set up. R7 RF to EF adapter with my old sigma 70 - 200mm. I had it on person tracking, servo, H+ any suggestions what can do so this does not happen again. Thinking of just doing center point focus so does not happen again and cant afford a new lens right now. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Jake Shoots Birds · Aug 11, 2022

By person tracking are you talking about the first position with Face Tracking? Do you have eye detect turned on? Are you using back button focus? Does the lens focus normally if you aren't shooting live action? Do you have IS turned on for the lens and/or the body? If not, what are your shutter speeds?

In other words, a few images with EXIF and a little more information would help to give you proper recommendations.

Jake Shoots Birds · Aug 11, 2022

On another note, when I shot Nikon I found that I needed to update the firmware on my Sigmas with every new body introduced after Sigma made any changes required to get it to work properly with the new body. You may want to contact them to see if anyone else has reported incompatibility issues with the R7, but you should be able to test that just shooting a family member or yourself in the mirror.

Renegade Viewfinder · Aug 11, 2022

I had the eye tracking on. Use back button focus. My lens does not have IS. I was shooting at 4000 F2.8 1/500. I will check on the firm ware on both my cameras. Really appreciate the info

Kwazy · Aug 11, 2022

You should be able to see if the pictures are out of focus or if it's motion blur. From the specs you gave, it sounds like this was indoors or on a cloudy day. High ISO may make things a little blurry, especially if you have High ISO Noise Reduction turned on, and 1/500th may be a bit slow at 200mm, especially with the adapter which loses you another stop I think.
Post a sample please.

Renegade Viewfinder · Aug 11, 2022

Part of a quick series.

Kwazy · Aug 11, 2022

Renegade Viewfinder said:
Part of a quick series.

Not motion blur. The white signage on the refs' table is in perfect focus.
Looks like your AF grabbed that instead of the people. You can (at least on R6, I hope R7 as well) turn on markers of what was focused on in the playback mode (it's one of the options), to see for sure.

Make sure "Eye Detect" is on, but it should've focused on the people here...

Shotbycurtin · Aug 11, 2022

If the shots are in the right sequence It looks to me you were following the ball and the camera locked onto the guy by the table. If it’s similar to the R5 you should be able to adjust the tracking sensitivity in the AF menu so the focus jumps more readily from one player to another.

Jake Shoots Birds · Aug 11, 2022

Yeah, these are definitely focused, but not on what you want. The thing about back button (that I've found at least) is that it may not grab the subject and if it doesn't then you have to understand how "sticky" your focus setting is.

If you have eye detection on you should be able to see where the camera wants to focus before you ever depress the focus button, front or rear. This should help, though in these photos it may go for one of the people facing you first so you'll need to learn to switch off. You can help that by using a focus zone or expanded point focus where you could have moved it onto the subject first. It takes some getting used to but at least you know it focuses.

BTW, I wasn't talking camera firmware, I'm talking lens firmware. Even Sigmas that don't use the dock have firmware that may need to be updated when put on a new camera. My 105mm Macro went back to them 3 times as I kept buying new bodies.

Renegade Viewfinder · Aug 11, 2022

Really appreciate the information. I did have to update the firmware on the R7 but will look into the Sigma lens update. I will just keep at it and figure out what works for me.

Kwazy · Aug 11, 2022

Renegade Viewfinder said:
I will just keep at it

Although the AF system in these cameras is pretty advanced, and has been called revolutionary, it can be a bit finiky and definitely requires a lot of practice to become familiar. There are imperfections, nuances and idiosyncrasies in its behavior that you should be aware of, and that will only come with more use. There's also quite a bit of settings that finetune how AF behaves, and different situations may call for different settings. There is at least one thread here discussing AF techniques for birding, I suggest you read through it to see how different people set up their cameras for quick and versatile focusing on moving subjects.

Mel H · Aug 13, 2022

I was trying out my r7 , (just got it yesterday) my plan was to get some garden birds on the wing. I found the tracking very slow nd like you the second or third shot was blurred. I also found the screen view very peculiar as m used to a view finder. I was getting quite despondent but Had a strong cup of tea and re read the manual again ! I adjusted the settings using case 4 AF and putting the tracking sensitivity to max along with the acceleration on max, it really helped and I got much better results . I tried both my Tamton 150-600 and my trusty canon70-200 with the adapter. The canon was faster to lock on focus . I realise these new cameras are very different to what I am used to so can see there will be lots of testing , tea, re reading the manual, wine, hair pulling and pondering before I get proficient! I am looking forward to it

Cheers.

Eric_56 · Sep 13, 2022

Mel H said:
I was trying out my r7 , (just got it yesterday) my plan was to get some garden birds on the wing. I found the tracking very slow nd like you the second or third shot was blurred. I also found the screen view very peculiar as m used to a view finder. I was getting quite despondent but Had a strong cup of tea and re read the manual again ! I adjusted the settings using case 4 AF and putting the tracking sensitivity to max along with the acceleration on max, it really helped and I got much better results . I tried both my Tamton 150-600 and my trusty canon70-200 with the adapter. The canon was faster to lock on focus . I realise these new cameras are very different to what I am used to so can see there will be lots of testing , tea, re reading the manual, wine, hair pulling and pondering before I get proficient! I am looking forward to it Cheers.

putting the tracking sensitivity to max along with the acceleration on max ?
-2 sensitivity + 2 accélération ?
Thanks

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