About a possible next buy…

[ctitanic]

I have been thinking about getting a Sigma 150-600 C to paired with my R6. Anyone using this combination? I’m worry about AF performance considering that the primary use will be bird photography.

 

[JCBigler]

I keep hearing that there are incompatibilities with the R6 line and the Sigma 150-600.

Have these been sorted out with a firmware update to the lens?

 

[David Stallard]

Seriously - look at the Tamron 150-600 G2 Cory and I went and tried both the Sigma and the Tamron side by side - Cory tried both on her R5 and the Tamron won on all counts - sharper, clearer, lighter and cheaper. She never had a bad shot from it, only sold it because I bought her the RF 100-500

 

[ctitanic]

Seriously - look at the Tamron 150-600 G2 Cory and went and tried both the Sigma and the Tamron side by side - Cory tried both on her R5 and the Tamron won on all counts - sharper, clearer, lighter and cheaper. She never had a bad shot from it, only sold it because I bought her the RF 100-500

I keep reading that the Tamron is worth! Hahahaha. And yes, I read that there is a pulsating issue with the Sigma so I don’t know in what way to go.

 

[David Stallard]

I keep reading that the Tamron is worth! Hahahaha. And yes, I read that there is a pulsating issue with the Sigma so I don’t know in what way to go.

Frank - if you want my honest opinion - I would save that little more and buy the RF100-500 It really is worth the money (can't say the 100-800 because I never tried it) but if you want the extra 100mm and an extender is out then the Tamron would be at the top of the list.

I have only suggested lenses I have used personally and used a lot, at the end of the day it is your decision - just remember it's not the body it's the glass you put on the front that makes the image ;-)

 

[ctitanic]

Frank - if you want my honest opinion - I would save that little more and buy the RF100-500 It really is worth the money (can't say the 100-800 because I never tried it) but if you want the extra 100mm and an extender is out then the Tamron would be at the top of the list.

I have only suggested lenses I have used personally and used a lot, at the end of the day it is your decision - just remember it's not the body it's the glass you put on the front that makes the image ;-)

The RF100-500 is the Best but it’s also 3 times the money that one of these costs. Unfortunately it’s out of my budget.

 

[ctitanic]

I'm currently using the EF100-400L Mk2 well known for being a sharp lens with a good AF performance. This lens sometimes feel a little bit short range and that's the main reason why I'm looking for more range. Yes, I have checked and considered the RF100-500 but the reality is that I do not have the money to spend in this lens, there’s not enough of a difference between 400mm and 500mm to justify spending over three times the cost of a used Sigma or Tamron 150-600mm lens.

My two big contenders are The Tamron 150-600 G2 and the Sigma 150-600 both EF. I have checked few comparisons between the two lenses where Sigma is the winner. I see David here saying that the Tamron is better. I have experiences with both companies. I owned a Sigma 100-400 and now a Tamron 28-300. The AF of Sigma lenses feels to me faster. I would love to hear more opinions before I pull the trigger and buy either of these lenses.

 

[ctitanic]

Seriously - look at the Tamron 150-600 G2 Cory and I went and tried both the Sigma and the Tamron side by side - Cory tried both on her R5 and the Tamron won on all counts - sharper, clearer, lighter and cheaper. She never had a bad shot from it, only sold it because I bought her the RF 100-500

You know @David Stallard , I have been checking again the Tamron 150-600 G2 and now I'm seriously considering, the main reason is that I already own the Tamron Docking Station and this lens is "real" weather sealed. According to the videos that I have checked from people that I trust, the AF is not worse than the one in the Sigma 150-600 C.

I still want to see more on this lens, but thank you for mentioning!

 

[Bryan Conner]

You know @David Stallard , I have been checking again the Tamron 150-600 G2 and now I'm seriously considering, the main reason is that I already own the Tamron Docking Station and this lens is "real" weather sealed. According to the videos that I have checked from people that I trust, the AF is not worse than the one in the Sigma 150-600 C.

I still want to see more on this lens, but thank you for mentioning!

I haven't actually tried either lens, and I don't have an R6, but I have tried to find comparisons online as well for a possible future purchase. One video that I did find which compared focussing specifically was this one: AF comparison test

The lenses were on an EOS R, but I think the results in af speed would be relevant regardless of the camera body.

 

[David Stallard]

You know @David Stallard , I have been checking again the Tamron 150-600 G2 and now I'm seriously considering, the main reason is that I already own the Tamron Docking Station and this lens is "real" weather sealed. According to the videos that I have checked from people that I trust, the AF is not worse than the one in the Sigma 150-600 C.

I still want to see more on this lens, but thank you for mentioning!

Had a quick look at Cory's site and these galleries are all with the Tamron on the 5D mkII

Big Cat Sanctuary

British Superbikes

Drag racing at Santa Pod (you want really fast)

That should keep you busy for a while ;-)

 

[ctitanic]

Thanks for the video Bryan. I tested the Tamron 28-300 in my R6 and the Speed is pretty much the same as in the video. It's slow for my test. I also tested the EF100-400L with the 1.4 extender and the focusing speed is a lot faster. After looking at this video I'm tempting to stay with the EF100-400L Mk2 + 1.4 Extender. The only part that I do not like from this combination is the f8 that I'll get at 560.

 

[ctitanic]

Had a quick look at Cory's site and these galleries are all with the Tamron on the 5D mkII

Big Cat Sanctuary

British Superbikes

Drag racing at Santa Pod (you want really fast)

That should keep you busy for a while ;-)

Yeap, but the 3erd party EF lenses on the 5D Mkii should work better than in a R6.

 

[ctitanic]

Had a quick look at Cory's site and these galleries are all with the Tamron on the 5D mkII

Big Cat Sanctuary

British Superbikes

Drag racing at Santa Pod (you want really fast)

That should keep you busy for a while ;-)

Those are good pictures!

 

[ctitanic]

I’m going back and forward between my options. From this video, it seems that the AF is a lot faster in the Sigma!

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Sharpness. Again Sigma is a winner.

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[ctitanic]

Then… it comes this guy proving that Tamron is sharper! I’m going crazy!

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[Bryan Conner]

In my opinion, when I watch multiple videos comparing the same two lenses and the conclusions are not the same across the different videos, that tells me that the lenses are probably close enough that it is hard to say which is the best. One person may have gotten a stellar copy of one lens and an average copy of the other. Or, the testing may have had other variables that skewed the results in favor of one lens.

If I can't make my mind up on whether I really need a lens or not, I will rent one for a day or two. I think it is a good investment to keep myself from making a decision I will regret. If I like the image after couple of days, then I feel more confident about purchasing the lens. Sometimes, it makes me realize that what I already have is good enough and I don't need a different lens.

 

[David Stallard]

Do what we did when Cory was looking - find a store that has both and arrange to take your camera along - pick a subject on the opposite side of the store and take a couple of shots - go home download to computer and scrutinise both - the ONLY way you will know for sure. (I still champion the Tamron)

 

[ctitanic]

At this point I’m inclined to keep using the EF100-400 l mk2 with the 1.4x mk3.

The main reason why I was looking for alternatives was to stay below f8 but it seems that to achieve sharpness with the Tamron that’s the magic number.

The Sigma pulsating issue seems to be there and Sigma is not going to fix it because it’s an RF issue that it’s not present in EF cameras.

The Tamron does not suffer of these issues but AF is slower than the EF100-400L with 1.4x.

So… It seems that I currently have the best option…

 

[ctitanic]

The results when using the EF100-400 L + 1.4x are not that bad. I think that I have to give it a second chance to this configuration.

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[Bryan Conner]

The results when using the EF100-400 L + 1.4x are not that bad. I think that I have to give it a second chance to this configuration.

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Not bad? This looks really nice. At long focal lengths, I really don't think viewers can see a difference between f6.3 and f8. And with modern sensors being as good as they are, the bump in iso needed at f8 will basically be insignificant in the real world...in my opinion.

With the 100-400/1.4tc combo, you actually have a 100-560mm lens, which is more versatile, in my opinion, that a 150-600mm.

When I realize that my current lenses are honestly the best I am always a bit disappointed...lol. I really like having a new lens and becoming familiar with it....so yeah.....I suffer from G.A.S.

 

[ctitanic]

When I realize that my current lenses are honestly the best I am always a bit disappointed...lol. I really like having a new lens and becoming familiar with it....so yeah.....I suffer from G.A.S.

Yeap, that's how I'm feeling now.

Thanks for all your help and for your kind words about my picture!