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Ferenc MÓGOR

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ISO16000! AI Noise reduction applied in Photoshop 24.7 (Beta). Please take a look at before/after pix. I think AI NR didn't need to work hard in this case.

Canon EOS R6 mk1 + RF 24-240mm F4-6.3 IS USM
1/25s, F4.5, 35mm, ISO16000


Before NR:

9Y3A7878.jpg
  • Canon EOS R6
  • RF24-240mm F4-6.3 IS USM
  • 35.0 mm
  • ƒ/4.5
  • 1/25 sec
  • ISO 16000


After NR:

9Y3A7878-Enhanced-NR.jpg
  • Canon EOS R6
  • RF24-240mm F4-6.3 IS USM
  • 35.0 mm
  • ƒ/4.5
  • 1/25 sec
  • ISO 16000

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Canon EOS R6 mk1 + RF 24-240mm F4-6.3 IS USM
1/25s, F4.5, 35mm, ISO16000
 
Neither image suffers from any excessive noise at all. That said, a little noise never bothered me, that's part of the game.
 
Is 24.7 beta? The CC app told me there was an update for bug fixes, etc. It never mentioned beta. It does not say beta when I check the about PS thingy. I don't use PS these days because LrC does everything I need. There have been complaints about files not opening if you send them from LrC to PS. I just tried it and it worked.

Yes it did not have to work hard but it looks good. Some noise is required for print to prevent posterization and does add to detail. For web posting I'll apply the same amount of Adobe Denoise AI. If I want a silky smooth background I'll mask it and remove more noise. Actually I can pretty much wipe it out completely at that stage.
 
I agree with Cemal - there is very little noise, and only noticeable when you zoom-in on the image. I've never tried an ISO that high and I must admit that some experimentation is due. Just how high am I willing to let the ISO go?
 
I agree with Cemal - there is very little noise, and only noticeable when you zoom-in on the image. I've never tried an ISO that high and I must admit that some experimentation is due. Just how high am I willing to let the ISO go?
20000

_G7A6996-Enhanced-NR.jpg
  • Canon EOS R7
  • RF100-500mm F4.5-7.1 L IS USM
  • 500.0 mm
  • ƒ/7.1
  • 1/5000 sec
  • ISO 20000
_G7A6996.jpg
  • Canon EOS R7
  • RF100-500mm F4.5-7.1 L IS USM
  • 500.0 mm
  • ƒ/7.1
  • 1/5000 sec
  • ISO 20000


40000

_U3A2049-Enhanced-NR.jpg
  • Canon EOS R
  • RF24-105mm F4 L IS USM
  • 24.0 mm
  • ƒ/4
  • 1/25 sec
  • ISO 40000
_U3A2049-Enhanced-NR-2.jpg
  • Canon EOS R
  • RF24-105mm F4 L IS USM
  • 24.0 mm
  • ƒ/4
  • 1/25 sec
  • ISO 40000


Original

_U3A2049.jpg
  • Canon EOS R
  • RF24-105mm F4 L IS USM
  • 24.0 mm
  • ƒ/4
  • 1/25 sec
  • ISO 40000
 
PS numbering is a little off. While it is version 24.7 it is actually still PS 2023. I believe the Beta version is PS 2024 and people are having issue with sending a file from LrC to PS.
 
I remember the film days of shooting high ISO film because it had more pronounced grains. I think the ability to reduce the noise made it highly undesirable. I try to enjoy the photograph rather than be distracted by noise or lack of bokeh. This set of samples at an even higher ISO setting has nothing that bothers me.
 
Well, it looks like that last set of images answers my question of just how high should I let the ISO go. I don't see any real issue with noise on the last set of images (20,000 and 40,00 ISO). Maybe if you were to print at 16x20 inches or larger you might see noise, and maybe not given the subject. Thanks for the samples and helping me to get over my "fear" of high ISOs.
 
Well, it looks like that last set of images answers my question of just how high should I let the ISO go. I don't see any real issue with noise on the last set of images (20,000 and 40,00 ISO). Maybe if you were to print at 16x20 inches or larger you might see noise, and maybe not given the subject. Thanks for the samples and helping me to get over my "fear" of high ISOs.
In 2009 I was asked to shoot a high school football game with my 7D. It was an evening game and my telephoto was f/4. That night I learned what the meaning of a fast lens was. What I would have given for another stop. I had no choice but to shoot at ISO 12800 and could just maintain a shutter speed of 1/500. On many shots the SS was slower. I only had PS back then. I cleaned up the files, the 8 by 10 prints looked great and the family loved them. A bit of motion blur in the hands and feet but it gave it a bit an action feel.

Since that day I have never been afraid of high ISO. I'd rather get a noisy shot I can work with instead of a blurry shot. These days we have apps like Topaz Sharpen AI for de-blurring but I never shoot with that in mind. I never keep any OFF shots unless I really need to. If I couldn't get it right I don't keep it.

I have a friend who still won't go past ISO 400. 800 max. Still locked into the film days.
 
To get the ball rolling here's another shot, but this time taken with the EOS R6 mk1 at an extreme ISO102,400 in my kitchen of the cast iron skillet rack. Its a DIY rack made by myself, but that just another part of me. :) Processed in Photoshop with AI NR with some signs of noise, but hey, this is ISO102,4k!! Comments most welcome. :)

Canon EOS R6 mk1 + Rf 24-240mm F4-6.3 IS USM

1/200s, F5, 35mm, ISO102,400
 

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