LrC 13.3 is out

[Only RF]

Not only new additions in the masking and lens blur areas the Neural Engine bug has been fixed. On my 2020 MacBook Air M1, 16GB RAM Denoise AI dropped from 115 seconds to 25 seconds.

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[Archibald]

Thanks for the info - updating now. If the Enhance has been speeded up, that will be good.

 

[Archibald]

Trying out some of the features. LrC 13.3.

Lens Blur: In Develop, went to Lens Blur and clicked on Apply. The whole image becomes blurred. Hmm, what is this useful for?

Blur Background: In Library, went to Saved Preset > Adaptive: Blur background. The whole image again becomes blurred. Not useful. What am I missing?

Enhance: Worked as before, took 70 seconds.

 

[Only RF]

I’m not sure. My Intel Mac made little difference but my M1 was significant. What are you Performance settings in LrC preferences?

 

[Archibald]

Auto use of the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB, Cache 5 GB...

 

[Only RF]

I just tried it on my MacBook Air again and 25 seconds with an R6II file. I had it with me for 2 months in Portugal and it was like molasses. Anytime there was an LrC or OS update I tried it and I always for 115 seconds. I'm not a computer expert. Maybe ask at the Lightroom Queen forums?

 

[Archibald]

It's OK - I think the software should figure out the optimization. I can wait the extra minute if needed.

I explored the blur functions a bit more. It seems the AI tries to figure out distances in the image, and you can set distance ranges to be in focus or out of focus. You can also let it auto-select the subject, but that made a mess of the pic I was working on. The range selection sort of works, but I am getting weird effects in some of the OOF shapes. They bizarrely go in and out of blur. Those things can be fixed with more fiddling... but the fan in my box is blowing like crazy while I'm doing these things, and it's getting warm in the room.

It's easier to blur areas the old way, by selecting and using sliders.

The way things are going with AI, I might have to get a computer with a water cooler.

 

[Only RF]

Lol

 

[MrSparks999]

This guy explains it quite well.
https://youtu.be/aucolYzygos

 

[Jake Shoots Birds]

Trying out some of the features. LrC 13.3.

Lens Blur: In Develop, went to Lens Blur and clicked on Apply. The whole image becomes blurred. Hmm, what is this useful for?

Blur Background: In Library, went to Saved Preset > Adaptive: Blur background. The whole image again becomes blurred. Not useful. What am I missing?

Enhance: Worked as before, took 70 seconds.

Would need to see your image to judge. Been using Lens Blur since it came in and I've never had it do an entire image. From your comments I'm assuming it can't seem to find a subject to base the blur on.

 

[Archibald]

Would need to see your image to judge. Been using Lens Blur since it came in and I've never had it do an entire image. From your comments I'm assuming it can't seem to find a subject to base the blur on.

I'm new to the feature. The defaults are unfortunate and misled me. However, as I mentioned in another post, I was able to progress, but it was tough.

Here is a pic that would benefit from blurring of the background.

And here is a version after using Lens Blur. LR completely missed the subject; I had to manually adjust the focus range. That got the bird sharp (but minus part of a leg) and there were some really weird artifacts in the background.

Oddly enough, some of those artifacts resolved on export. That is to say, the view in the Develop module didn't match what was in the exported file. Comparison below: Exported file on the left, Develop view on the right. (Tried it twice and got the same result.)

 

[Jake Shoots Birds]

Oddly enough, some of those artifacts resolved on export. That is to say, the view in the Develop module didn't match what was in the exported file. Comparison below: Exported file on the left, Develop view on the right. (Tried it twice and got the same result.)
View attachment 28442

That's really odd. Even more interesting is that the artifact on the right is gone but you got an extra one on the shorter branch.

My workflow has evolved over time and I now do most of my "Lightroom" work in Photoshop by invoking the Camera Raw Filter (it's the Develop module) on a new layer. So when I've noticed stuff like this I'll generally do a separate blur step and mask out the artifacts.

With that said, I know this is a Lightroom post but this image is a tough one given all the close branches and I'm thinking AI just isn't there yet to figure out what's small but in the same plane and what's big in the background, so sometimes you have to switch to Manual mode.

For this image I'd (either before or after all other Lightroom/Camera Raw Filter adjustments):

1. isolate the bird (Select Subject)
2. save the selection as a channel so it can be reused)
3. invert the selection and make just that a new layer (ctrl/cmd-j)
4. use gausian blur to blur everything
5. reselect the subject using the channel, create a layer mask, and then invert the mask to remove any creeping blur over the subject
6. use a black brush in the mask to paint back the stuff I want in focus/as original (you can vary the brush opacity on things you want lesser effects on)

It's more work but much cleaner. And the nice thing is that once you've got your mask you can play with the opacity level and apply layer adjustments just to the blurred background isolating the subject even better. I know editing others' images is a no-no, but we all know a picture is worth a thousand words, so this is what it looks like in Photoshop. I've done it enough that this is 2 minutes work and I could likely create an action to do steps 1-3, and if I was really smart 1-5 with a pause for me to set the amount of blur. LOL

 

[Archibald]

Thank you for that, Jake. And no problem with editing my pic.

I'm a Lightroom guy and not skilled at all in Photoshop. I had already softened the background of this pic in LR using its selection tools. The softening was subtle and more would help. LR has its limits and PS might be needed.

I have a doc file with instructions that I follow when I need to edit in PS. It's like a recipe book. Thanks for the detailed steps to fix this pic. I take opportunities like this to learn and add a new recipe to the book. So when I have time, I will follow your instructions.

Clearly the blur feature in LR isn't working well in this image, and manual intervention is needed. There is also a risk that the pic will start to look unnatural. I'll have to see how far I can go with it.

 

[Archibald]

I had another go at Lens Blur. It can be made to work pretty good if you are willing to diddle with the settings. Previously LR wasn't able to do a good blur like a gaussian blur. Now with Lens Blur, that can be done, without having to go to PS.

Before

After, using Lens Blur in Lr

 

[Only RF]

Looks really good. Thanks for posting. By the way thanks to Adobe, DXO, Topaz and the others for noise reduction. Thanks Adobe for blur. Us poor folk don't need to worry about how to buy big expensive fast lenses anymore. I've always wanted a 500mm f4 (or 600) but at my age I'm not so sure anymore. It's getting harder to hold up that kind of weight and today is as young as I'll ever be.

I'd be interested in a 500 or 600 f5.6.

 

[Archibald]

There is still some messiness in the lower branches on the right. I should be able to fix that if I want.

You are right about heavy lenses. Same with me. I was eyeing the RF 600/4. What a nice lens, and would get you some respect. With a monopod, it would work. But not if you have to move any distance. And I'm almost always walking or ambling. So it would not work for me except if I stay put in a blind or other particular place. The RF 100-500 is around my limit for a couple/few hours of walking.

With software advancing, we can fix a couple stops of noise, and can now simulate fast lenses, sort of. No need any more for fast lenses, as long as they are fast enough to avoid noticeable diffraction. And even diffraction can be reduced by sharpening.