Which backup camera to buy?

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I currently have an r5 which I love, but sold my 5d Mark IV which was my backup camera. I plan to buy a mirrorless backup and I'm deciding between the r6 Mark ii and another r5. I shoot wildlife and landscapes. Any insights would be welcome.
 
Hard to recommend any camera coz it should be you to decide and it should be you to know the need of having a back up. Nonetheless, just out of curiosity, any special reason you need a backup for wildlife and landscapes? Do you have some previous bad experience with having only one single camera? Hope to learn something as being a guy who has no backup. Thanks in advance. :)
 
Hard to recommend any camera coz it should be you to decide and it should be you to know the need of having a back up. Nonetheless, just out of curiosity, any special reason you need a backup for wildlife and landscapes? Do you have some previous bad experience with having only one single camera? Hope to learn something as being a guy who has no backup. Thanks in advance. :)
If i was lucky enough to have an R5 I would probably go for an R7 or wait till there is an improved crop sensor Canon mirrorless. It's just because it gives you something different, albeit mainly reach. Otherwise consider R6 ii or R8 if on a tighter budget as it has most of the main features of the R6ii but is cut down on some, obviously for the price. But sensor and AF are the same.
 
Hard to recommend any camera coz it should be you to decide and it should be you to know the need of having a back up. Nonetheless, just out of curiosity, any special reason you need a backup for wildlife and landscapes? Do you have some previous bad experience with having only one single camera? Hope to learn something as being a guy who has no backup. Thanks in advance. :)
I have always had good luck with Canon cameras, but I travel a lot in remote places where a camera failure would be catastrophic, so I like to have a backup. Because of my climbing and search and rescue background I believe in redundancy when possible. I also like the luxury of having a wildlife lens on one camera and a landscape lens on the other eliminating the need to change lenses every time a different opportunity presents itself. So it may have been better to title my post as a second camera rather than a backup. And I can afford a second camera so it is not a great hardship.
 
Gotcha. IMHO for a second camera you can't go wrong with another R5. :) Same camera, no need to learn differences, just go out and shoot with all the convenience you can get with identical cams. Agree, its always easier and quicker to change cameras than to change lenses. :)
 
Gotcha. IMHO for a second camera you can't go wrong with another R5. :) Same camera, no need to learn differences, just go out and shoot with all the convenience you can get with identical cams. Agree, its always easier and quicker to change cameras than to change lenses. :)
That has been my thinking but since the r6 ii is a newer camera I wondered if there were upgrades that made it a better option. I don't like the different cards though. Like I said, I like redundancy.
 
That has been my thinking but since the r6 ii is a newer camera I wondered if there were upgrades that made it a better option. I don't like the different cards though. Like I said, I like redundancy.
Rumor has it that the new R5 MK2 will hit the market pretty soon. Should you not be in a hurry two of them should make you more than happy, right? :)
 
Rumor has it that the new R5 MK2 will hit the market pretty soon. Should you not be in a hurry two of them should make you more than happy, right? :)
I have heard that as well, but I just don't know why I would need that many megapixels. I'm happy with the resolution on the original r5. Plus I want a second before I head to Yellowstone in early May. But thanks for your feedback!
 
I'd go with the R6II. Sometimes I prefer a lower megapixel camera for web work. I actually prefer it for landscape, sports and urban walk around shooting. I had the R5 and sold it for the R6II and R7.

The R3 is a fine camera so I don't want to say it was not a good purchase. I wish I could afford one.

 
As a hobbyist, I went with the R8 as the backup body, since I wanted something small and already had a bunch of spare LP-E17 batteries. For my use cases, opportunistic birding and family pictures, the AF on the R8 had more keepers than the R5.
So I think the R6II would be a good backup camera for your R5, if you don't mind the drop in megapixels and smaller buffer.
As others have said, the R7 is nice for wildlife, but the slower sensor makes the AF miss things the R5 would hit, so have a few practice sessions before going on the proper trip!
 
As a hobbyist, I went with the R8 as the backup body, since I wanted something small and already had a bunch of spare LP-E17 batteries. For my use cases, opportunistic birding and family pictures, the AF on the R8 had more keepers than the R5.
So I think the R6II would be a good backup camera for your R5, if you don't mind the drop in megapixels and smaller buffer.
As others have said, the R7 is nice for wildlife, but the slower sensor makes the AF miss things the R5 would hit, so have a few practice sessions before going on the proper trip!
For the OP. The R8 was not out when I got my R6II otherwise I would have looked at it. It has only 1 QC dial and the R6II has 2 QC dials. Similar to the R7 but Canon placed on the top, not the back on the R8. Like the R7 the back control is called the Quick Control/Set Button. All II use it for is to turn eye detect on and off but there are buttons to map if someone wants to. I do have to say I like the position of the QC dial on the R7 which is mapped for EC. Reaching it feels more natural. R8 may feel the same. For the R6II I use the Set Button in the middle of the QC1 dial for eye detect on and off.

The R7 is missing the QC2 dial. I had to map Aperture to the the lens ring which I don't really like but I shoot wide open with that body most of the time. With the R6II - Main dial = SS, QC2 = Aperture and QC1 = EC. R7 - Main dial = SS, Aperture = lens ring and QC = EC.

One thing my R6II has that I wish the R7 had is the ability to map "subject to detect" to a button. I mapped the MF-n for that and it's the cats meow. Again mostly birding with the R7 so again not too bad. I use that often with the R6II. I'm not sure if the R8 offers that.
 
You didn't say what type of wildlife. For fur in the Badlands I was shooting a pair of R7s, with 100-400 + 1.4xTC on one, and 70-200 on the other.
I recently put the 70-200 on a R5 for better low light shots.
Yes, it's a PITA when the two bodies don't match. I like the R7's better layout and more options, myself, and should the R7ii be a major improvement I'll probably switch to a pair of them.
Since you're already used to the R5, I would just get a second one, unless you could use the extra reach built into the R7.
I took a hard look at the new Pany G9ii. I was shooting a pair of G9s before coming back to Canon. The fact that the G9ii shares the same body as the S5ii sounds interesting, full frame in one body, M43 in the other. But not much choice for wildlife lenses.
 
I have heard that as well, but I just don't know why I would need that many megapixels. I'm happy with the resolution on the original r5. Plus I want a second before I head to Yellowstone in early May. But thanks for your feedback!
Have you considered renting a camera body for Yellowstone? The R5 II rumors suggest that it will also be a 45MP sensor with other improvements. I have an R5 and I'm strongly leaning towards buying the R5 II and keeping my R5 my 2nd body.
 
Have you considered renting a camera body for Yellowstone? The R5 II rumors suggest that it will also be a 45MP sensor with other improvements. I have an R5 and I'm strongly leaning towards buying the R5 II and keeping my R5 my 2nd body.
I have been hearing the r5 mk ii would be a 60 mp sensor. Maybe I should be patient until the r5 upgrade is released but patience is not one of my virtues.... I can most likely get by just fine in Yellowstone with my current r5, but I definitely want a second before I leave for Alaska and the Yukon in June.
 
Benefits of getting another R5?
Easier to turn the camera on rather than accidently changing stills/movie mode.

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So it may have been better to title my post as a second camera rather than a backup. And I can afford a second camera so it is not a great hardship.
I have the R6 II. Fantastic camera, but if money isn’t an issue I don’t see any reason not to get another R5. If you want a different flavor, grab an R8 as a second Canon and a Pentax K-1 Mark 2 with their FA* 15-30 2.8. I don’t own one, but from the Pentax circle I’m in (Pentax K-50 is my other system, their pro level * lenses are nice and everything they make is built like a BSH.) that combo is a phenomenal landscape/Astro set up.
 
I already own my next backup camera: it’s my current R5.

I realise that this is almost a facetious comment, but the additional must-have features (pre-capture, eye-directed focus point, etc.) of the R5ii will determine whether the current R5 is assigned its new role.

Put differently: I’m waiting for the R5 to catch up to the R3, R6ii and Nikon’s Z8.
 
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Back in the 1DX2 days I had a 5dmk3 as a back up but it never got used, sold it and bought another 1DX2 and yep - that never got used either so I sold both and bought the one R3, even though I shoot motorsport and know that a 'just in case' back up would be a good idea - it would never get used and I would end up selling it, so for me my emergancy back up is my iPhone.
 
LOL, good point about backups never getting used.

I don't really have a backup but have two bodies - R5 for people and general photography, and R7 for birds and bugs. They both get used. They also serve as backups for each other when I go on trips.

Funny how we want backup bodies but not so much backup lenses. What if my 100-500mm L lens had stopped working during my birding trip to Costa Rica? A 100-400 could have served as a backup but I don't have one.
 
Just for some fun and relaxation. How about a back-up battery grip, or a back-up camera bag? Last but not least a back-up photographer, just in case we fall out right in the middle of a once in a lifetime photo op. Of course that one back up photographer should be equipped with all the back-ups we have for ourselves. Enjoy life "as is". Never over think it. :)
 
I bought an R8 to accompany my R5 ... I wanted light and small but with the internals of the R6 ii ... I know what is missing and it did not bother me.

The R5 will prob get upgraded to the Mk ii in due course but the R8 will stay as for value for money it is hard to beat. Light carry and I take the R8, detailed and want all I can use ... the R5 gets taken.

I am not a pro so a 'proper' backup is not needed but, when I was married to a pro and we shot stuff for money she just had two similar/same - well, 1Ds ii and a 1 D ii, 2 x 5D ii's then 2 x 5D iii's ....
 
I ended up going with an R6 Mark II for my second camera rather than a second R5. I do a lot of long backpack trips, six to ten days and the lighter weight and longer battery life of the R6 makes it kind of perfect for that. So in reality it will be my preferred camera for backpacking while the R5 will continue to be my first choice otherwise. I also like to have a wildlife lens on one and a landscape lens on the other when I'm driving. The R6 will not sit idly in my camera bag.
 
I currently have an r5 which I love, but sold my 5d Mark IV which was my backup camera. I plan to buy a mirrorless backup and I'm deciding between the r6 Mark ii and another r5. I shoot wildlife and landscapes. Any insights would be welcome.
I’d get an r6 II unless you need the duplicate controls of a second r5, you’d get more variety from having the r6 II.
 
Hard to recommend any camera coz it should be you to decide and it should be you to know the need of having a back up. Nonetheless, just out of curiosity, any special reason you need a backup for wildlife and landscapes? Do you have some previous bad experience with having only one single camera? Hope to learn something as being a guy who has no backup. Thanks in advance. :)
No bad experience, but I travel a lot in very remote locations and if my camera was to go down I would be out of luck, so I just like to be prepared. From climbing and SAR experience I believe redundancy is always good if possible. Canon cameras have always been very reliable but one time without a camera would be too many.
 
I had exactly the same dilemma and learned the hard way when my R5 just stopped working , fortunately on the last day of a 2 week trip. I have been waiting for the R5ii but I couldn't wait any longer and decided on the R7. I didn't want one but now I have one I like it. The eye detect is better than the R5, the cropped sensor gives more reach or a wider aperture option on a zoom lens like the 100-500 and it was well priced. lots I wish were different like the layout which can get confusing or just lacking when you have been using the R5 but overall I'm happy with my decision. Probably won't buy an R5ii now. I never considered buying two identical cameras, to me a waste of money for reasons of just a back up. Whatever I bought had to offer something I didn't have already so it was crop sensor vs better ISO performance, R7 vs R6ii. Crop sensor and more pixels won.
 

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